Primal Groudon

Professor Noctowl's Raid Research: Primal Groudon

A Scholarly Analysis from the Pokebattler Pokémon Research Institute

Raid Introduction

Hello students! My name is Professor Geekbeak, and today, I wish to draw attention to Primal Groudon. Both of these troubled primal elemental siblings are strong in their typings, being the best option in most cases. Even if their individual stats were not top-notch, the primal boost makes it very worthwhile to bring them along. Grab your notebooks, class is in session. For those who wish to do their research independently, our raw data can be found here. And for those who wish for a simple visual guide, go ahead and take a look at the below visual guide by CaptGoldfish.

Visual Guide

NOTE: Some visual guides will be outdated for the duration of GO FEST. They will remain mostly accurate, but lack modern counters, such as the Mega Mewtwo duo, or Eternatus.

Raid Syllabus

Course Schedule

This counter is one of many GO FEST raids. There are too many to put a coherent schedule here, but rest assured, pretty much every legendary, mega, and shadow under the sun will be going at some point. Look to your local GO FEST event or the Pokebattler.com raid schedule to see exactly what raids will be going.

Course Information

  • Catch CP: 2260 - 2351
  • Boosted (Sunny/Clear): 2825 - 2939
  • Minimum Required Trainers (Lvl 40, best friends, optimal weather): 2
  • Recommended: 5+ with Lvl 20 counters

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Type Effectiveness & Moveset List

Water types bring Groudon low, which might be why Kyogre is seen winning most encounters with Groudon before Rayquaza gets involved. However, beware of Solar Beam.

Effectiveness Types
Double Resist (0.4x) Electric Electric
Resist (0.6x) Poison Poison Bug Bug Steel Steel Fire Fire Fairy Fairy
Neutral Normal Normal Fighting Fighting Flying Flying Rock Rock Ghost Ghost Grass Grass Psychic Psychic Ice Ice Dragon Dragon Dark Dark
Super Effective (1.6x) Ground Ground
Double Super Effective (2.6x) Water Water

Primal Groudon’s moveset includes the following charge moves:

  • Ground Earthquake
  • Fire Fire Blast
  • Grass Solar Beam
  • Normal Return
  • Ground Precipice Blades
  • Fire Fire Punch

The Dean's List - Top 5 Counters

The Dean’s List consists of the top 5 counters to Primal Groudon. As always, the Valedictorian, Salutatorian, and the Third Ranked will have their best moveset alternatives in a table with their rankings and a table detailing their defensive prowess against the charge moves listed above.

Primal Kyogre

Primal Kyogre A

Best Moveset: Water Waterfall / Water Surf
DPS
Tank
Reliability
3
Trainers
(Lvl 40)
Quick Move Charge Move Efficacy
Water Waterfall Water Surf 100%
Water Waterfall Water Origin Pulse 99%
Water Waterfall Water Hydro Pump 91%
Water Waterfall Normal Return 76%
Water Waterfall Ice Blizzard 74%
Water Waterfall Ice Avalanche 70%
Shadow Kyogre

Shadow Kyogre A

Best Moveset: Water Waterfall / Water Surf
DPS
Tank
Reliability
3
Trainers
(Lvl 40)
Quick Move Charge Move Efficacy
Water Waterfall Water Surf 100%
Water Waterfall Water Origin Pulse 99%
Water Waterfall Water Hydro Pump 88%
Water Waterfall Ice Blizzard 73%
Water Waterfall Ice Avalanche 69%
Water Waterfall Electric Thunder 68%
Mega Swampert

Mega Swampert A

Best Moveset: Water Water Gun / Water Hydro Cannon
DPS
Tank
Reliability
3
Trainers
(Lvl 40)
Quick Move Charge Move Efficacy
Water Water Gun Water Hydro Cannon 100%
Ground Mud Shot Water Hydro Cannon 92%
Water Water Gun Water Surf 89%
Water Water Gun Water Muddy Water 77%
Ground Mud Shot Water Surf 76%
Water Water Gun Ground Earthquake 68%

Defensive Grades for Top 3

Boss Move KYOGRE_PRIMAL KYOGRE_SHADOW_FORM SWAMPERT_MEGA
Grass Solar Beam ⚔⚔
Ground Earthquake
Fire Fire Blast 🛡 🛡 🛡
Mega Blastoise

Mega Blastoise A

Best Moveset: Water Water Gun / Water Hydro Cannon
DPS
Tank
Reliability
4
Trainers
(Lvl 40)
Mega Gyarados

Mega Gyarados A

Best Moveset: Water Waterfall / Water Aqua Tail
DPS
Tank
Reliability
4
Trainers
(Lvl 40)
Also Noteworthy: A: Shadow Gyarados

Honor Roll - The Bottom 5

We here at Pokebattler Pokémon Research Institute can’t expect you to have the best counters every time. So, here are some of our other best options, most of which will be easier to find than the members of the Dean’s List.

Kyogre

Kyogre A

Best Moveset: Water Waterfall / Water Surf
DPS
Tank
Reliability
4
Trainers
(Lvl 40)
Shadow Greninja

Shadow Greninja A

Best Moveset: Water Bubble / Water Hydro Cannon
DPS
Tank
Reliability
4
Trainers
(Lvl 40)
Golisopod

Golisopod A

Best Moveset: Water Waterfall / Water Razor Shell
DPS
Tank
Reliability
4
Trainers
(Lvl 40)
Shadow Samurott

Shadow Samurott A

Best Moveset: Water Waterfall / Water Razor Shell
DPS
Tank
Reliability
4
Trainers
(Lvl 40)
Shadow Swampert

Shadow Swampert A

Best Moveset: Water Water Gun / Water Hydro Cannon
DPS
Tank
Reliability
4
Trainers
(Lvl 40)

Honorable Mentions

Of course, besides our 10 best counters, there are plenty of Pokémon that also work against Primal Groudon. Here are a few star choices, worthy of praise.

A PrimarinaPrimarinaShadow FeraligatrShadow FeraligatrGyaradosGyaradosShadow CrawdauntShadow CrawdauntKinglerKinglerSwampertSwampertShadow EmpoleonShadow EmpoleonShadow RegigigasShadow RegigigasGreninjaGreninjaPrimal GroudonPrimal GroudonQuaquavalQuaquavalMega GarchompMega GarchompMega SlowbroMega SlowbroMega RayquazaMega RayquazaFeraligatrFeraligatrInteleonInteleonMega SharpedoMega SharpedoRegigigasRegigigasSamurottSamurott

Weather Specialists

Sometimes, the weather can be your most powerful ally. In certain weather conditions, certain Pokémon on our list excel. The most transformative cases are noted below.

RainyRainy
Kyogre (2.7)Shadow Gyarados (2.7)Shadow Greninja (2.8)

Raid Conclusion

Overall, Primal Groudon is a old but gold Pokemon. It may know Solar Beam, but that is not enough to shake its crippling weakness to water. Of course, if you wish to do more research on your box’s best Pokémon for the job, Pokebattler.com itself can be a great help! Remember, the best counter is the one you have powered up and ready to go. I grant extra credit to those who use their best friend bonus and the weather to their advantage. Class dismissed!